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Proposed Who Is Hiring Spec

106 点作者 perspectivezoom将近 10 年前

9 条评论

msvan将近 10 年前
This is not going to work unless it is enforced by software running on the HN servers. Many of the hiring posts are posted by non-hackers who don't give a flying roomba about specs and correct formatting. The ideal format would be something generated by a set of dropdowns and textareas, but then again, would it still be HN?
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phantom_oracle将近 10 年前
I really like this, but salaries should definitely be considered something that could (optionally) be added as well.<p>I guess this is the HN way of turning a simple proposal by <i>dang</i> (for feedback) into an engineering problem where we try to solve:<p>============================================================<p><i>The optimal method of describing a job post where the utility of most users&#x2F;readers is, at least, mostly satisfied</i><p>============================================================<p>:)
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MCRed将近 10 年前
&quot;Onsite&quot; and &quot;remote&quot; are not sufficient, unfortunately. Remote should be obvious, but a lot of companies say &quot;remote&quot; when they mean &quot;you can work at home a couple days a week&quot;... rather than really remote. So we need a new word for &quot;work from home ok&quot; thats distinct from &quot;remote&quot; (Which means &quot;work from another state ok&quot; I don&#x27;t mind employees requiring you to be in the same country, but in the same state is a problem.)
adjwilli将近 10 年前
Isn&#x27;t this basic just a job listing micro format? <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;microformats.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;job-listing" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;microformats.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;job-listing</a>
northisup将近 10 年前
This spec isn&#x27;t very human friendly. As a human this bothers me.
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e12e将近 10 年前
I think breaking a bit from the current de-facto format would be better. Consider the example:<p>==<p>Acme Products | Test Engineer | Las Vegas, NV; Austin, TX | Onsite; Remote | Full-Time; Part-Time | Visa (H1B) | Tunnel Theory; Kinematics<p>Engineer needed to test prototype products. Must be able to lift and carry anvils. metafriendly<p>==<p>The only real problem I&#x27;ve had with existing listings, is that people tend to list both &quot;remote&quot; and &quot;no-remote&quot; -- making search hard.<p>I propose moving those &quot;tags&quot; to &quot;hash-tags&quot;, and just list them at the bottom of the ad:<p>==<p>Acme Products | Test Engineer | Las Vegas, NV; Austin, TX<p>Engineer needed to test prototype products. Must be able to lift and carry anvils. metafriendly<p>#on-site #full-time #part-Time<p>==<p>Note that the two are different; I don&#x27;t see how you could work remotely testing anvil-lifting... ;-)<p>At any rate, if we&#x27;re talking about a new &quot;spec&quot;, I&#x27;d say:<p>* Apart from position, and location, as little as possible on the first line.<p>* Replace the &quot;text&quot;-tags with &quot;hash&quot;-tags - #remote is easy to search for with text-search, and won&#x27;t match #no-remote, No-remote -- and doesn&#x27;t require regexp magic to match word-boundaries etc (which few (no?) browsers support anyway).<p>* Put the tags at the bottom -- they&#x27;re really for searching (and machine parsing), with the amount of listings we are getting now -- no-one is reading just <i>your</i> ad, they&#x27;re reading a stream of ads.<p>* Don&#x27;t go overboard with &quot;hash&quot;-tags. I&#x27;m not all that interested in seeing: mulitple-line lists of #python #ruby #haskell #c++ #dev-ops (...)<p>Now, if we <i>really</i> want to over-engineer this thing, why not draw some inspiration from the Dewy decimal system? So 001-234 could be 001:devops 2:python and bash 3:unix-like-and-windows-nt 4:remote-or-onsite ... ;-)
shawnps将近 10 年前
Is there a way to be more clear about whether the company will apply for an H1B for a candidate, as opposed to sponsoring an existing one? I have a lot of friends who talk to companies that end up saying, &quot;we only sponsor existing visas.&quot;
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purephase将近 10 年前
The real answer, as many have tried to implement, is another site&#x2F;tool entirely. One that allows filtering, notifications etc.<p>Pretty easy to build, not so easy to get community engagement unless the HN folks endorse it officially as an alternative.
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beyti将近 10 年前
The parameters will need to be extensible and this only kills the proposition imho.