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Ask HN: My free app has gone slighty viral – looking for ideas to monetize it

121 点作者 Rabidgremlin将近 10 年前
A bit of background, I built the app because I was running an old Nexus One and the Facebook app was too large to install alongside my other &quot;essential&quot; apps (15mb at the time, its now 38mb!). So I spend about an hour or so and cobbled together the app.<p>For almost a year and a half it had less than 1000 installs and then in Feb this year it started to rapidly gain installs. It is currently sitting at 241,000 installs (with 55,000 active users).<p>I figure I should take advantage of this and figure out some way to monetize the app.<p>Unfortunately the app is all about size and trust (as it sandboxes the FB web app) so most of the ideas I&#x27;ve come up with don&#x27;t seem to be in the spirit of the app.<p>Some of the ideas I&#x27;ve had:<p>* Put in ads and add an in-app purchase to turn them off * Put in a &quot;donation&quot; in-app purchase * Add support for other social networks but only enable them after an in-app purchase<p>The app also has some pretty interesting demographics. Most users are from non-English speaking countries: Turkey 18.14%, Philippines 8.38%, Mexico 7.46%, Morocco 6.52%, India 5.27%, Indonesia 4.10%, Brazil 4.04%, Thailand 2.72%, United States 2.59%, Colombia 2.44%, Others 38.33%<p>The app is called &quot;Social Lite&quot; see here for more info https:&#x2F;&#x2F;play.google.com&#x2F;store&#x2F;apps&#x2F;details?id=com.rabidgremlin.sociallite<p>My current go-forward plan is put a survey in place and poll the users on what they want and what they would pay for

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kriro将近 10 年前
I&#x27;d approach this differently and from reading your replies you seem to be a fairly laid back (non &quot;cutthroat&quot;) guy so this might be interesting for you.<p>Use it as a fun experiment to see how much you can grow it not how much you can monetize. Formulate some assumptions and test them. I&#x27;d personally pick one of the countries and see if I can push installs in that country hard (might be difficult due to language issues). Try to figure out how people learn about your app and install it. Figure out what phones it is installed on and write a blogpost on using your app on that phone etc.<p>55k active users isn&#x27;t bad. If you keep on growing someone will get interested even if you didn&#x27;t monetize before (possibly even because you didn&#x27;t) especially since it&#x27;s not a &quot;fad app&quot; but something sustainable as long as there&#x27;s low resource phones. [worst case you can use it if you ever want to apply at Facebook]<p>tl;dr: use it as your private growth-lab and learn a lot :)
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aaronbrethorst将近 10 年前
Unlikely to succeed. Your users won&#x27;t want to be monetized and they&#x27;re from countries that are relatively unmonetizable. You don&#x27;t say what you do for a living, but—personally—I&#x27;d slap this on my resume as a &#x27;look at the awesome user base my apps have had&#x27; sort of event, and move on. Great way to gain better leverage for the next job move or raise request, but not likely to be more than that at present.
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polyvalent01将近 10 年前
Hi OP I&#x27;m from morocco and I can tell you that NOBODY in Morocco will pay your app. Why ? I&#x27;ll tell you why.<p>Here in the 3rd world countries we don&#x27;t have credit card unless we get a job, and when I say &quot;get a job&quot; I mean 28 and up . Morocco is very different from Europe and US because we don&#x27;t have unemployement and just to make a living is really hard.<p>Also Piracy here is something commun because our ISP ( and we have only one lol who fuck the market with their High price and low value) Doesn&#x27;t block torrent, as long as you stay out of Illegal stuffs...<p>Also even if I have a credit card at 21 ( I worked in a call center in the last summer so I can afford it) I will never lose money on apps. First: I&#x27;m poor Second : We only have 10 000 Dirhams ( 900 Euro ) to spend in a whole YEAR. Wich means we&#x27;re very careful on what we spend money on.<p>So the best thing I can tell you is to add a banner and one or two Interstial ads and NOBODY will bat an eye .<p>Hope I gave you an insight OP :)
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BinaryIdiot将近 10 年前
This is tough. When webOS was announced I got into the early Palm developer&#x27;s program and created an application. It was kinda neat but also not incredibly complex. After the Pre was released within about 6 months it had over 100,000 downloads (which, for a new OS and device, seemed kinda awesome!). It was a free app but I thought I could try to monetize it a little.<p>First step was to try ads. It went from highly rated to about 3 stars because everyone hated the ads (understandable). I tried putting them at the top, bottom, middle; nothing worked at all.<p>There were no in-app purchases for webOS (or really any platform at the time) so I did what everyone else started doing: when they launched being able to pay for apps I provided my app for $.99 with no ads. After 2 years of running I made $9.<p>Essentially I destroyed the user-base my app initially had by trying a couple of ways to monetize them that provided poor user experience. I&#x27;m not sure what the best solution is here but don&#x27;t make my mistake and worsen your user experience to make money; it won&#x27;t work.<p>FYI for anyone curious my app on webOS was a take on the tip calculator. I know I know &quot;why would you try to charge for a TIP calculator!?&quot; but I thought the spin I had was novel, you could rate different parts of your restaurant experience to get an exact amount to tip rather than dealing with percentages at all (it only showed you the percentage after it calculated the tip). I had done a ton of tip research at the time and thought the idea might be worth something (plus I was young and dumb). It even had bill splitting! But yeah in the end I really shouldn&#x27;t have charged for it I mostly wanted to experiment to see if I could monetize it and I ended up completely destroying it. <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.webosnation.com&#x2F;dumb-waiter-free" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.webosnation.com&#x2F;dumb-waiter-free</a>
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gabchan将近 10 年前
SocialLite is a great name btw.<p>Monetization via end users is not realistic. This is my hypothesis regarding your user profile: (1) low-income or no-income aka cost sensitive, (2) possibly bad mobile data infrastructure, (3) pay-as-you-go mobile data or limited wifi access.<p>Your app is valuable because it is a REPLACEMENT for the company&#x27;s real app, because the real deal (as you put it nicely) is too large.<p>I would perhaps develop clones of your app for other social networks, and have a constellation of SocialLite apps for Twitter, Instagram, Pinterest, Tumblr, etc...<p>Why?<p>Because the value is in how lightweight you are but still be able to satisfy end user needs. Do not add ads, or in-app purchase bullshit. Your users don&#x27;t want that. And customers are gods.<p>Why?<p>Because you are collecting DATA. Usage patterns and quantifiable habits. The companies would be interested in that. Even just Facebook <i>might</i> be interested in what stats you have now, and having data on their frienemies adds proportionally more value.<p>But<p>Before you write another line of code, please reach out and get some feelers to see if the companies indeed want data and what data they are looking for. Since you are in developing markets, and companies want to expand there, you are providing a unique and rare insight into those markets. Data driven insights are better than anything else.<p>P.S.:<p>I would not survey the users. Bad UX (specifically bad information timing) and whatever little data you ascertain will not be actionable anyway.
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kirualex将近 10 年前
I had the same idea 4 years ago and did the exact same thing for several apps. This was a bad idea : <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;@kirualex&#x2F;an-android-developers-nightmare-105cb3f3beef" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;@kirualex&#x2F;an-android-developers-nightmare...</a><p>Google content policy is now very clear : Do not post any applications whose primary function is to: generate traffic to a website; or provide an overview of a website that you do notown and you do not handle (unless you have permission of the owner &#x2F; administrator of the website).
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cvitale将近 10 年前
Mr slightly viral,<p>You priced your app at zero. It became a success. Monetizing your app now will probably make it less so. Rather monetize by building good will with your customers (brand) and applying lessons learned towards development of your app2. If it&#x27;s good enough you can charge for it.
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lsiebert将近 10 年前
Don&#x27;t put third party advertisements in. If you are going to do any advertising, come up with a second project that might be of interest to your demographic, but that costs money, and advertise for your own product.<p>I&#x27;d consider some sort of soccer score app that integrates with FB.
onuryavuz将近 10 年前
Actually there is an official app published by Facebook, for size-sensitive users. It&#x27;s called Facebook Lite and here is the google store link : <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;play.google.com&#x2F;store&#x2F;apps&#x2F;details?id=com.facebook.lite" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;play.google.com&#x2F;store&#x2F;apps&#x2F;details?id=com.facebook.l...</a>
drawkbox将近 10 年前
With a free app you have to have your monetization in before launch. But this is a great platform to launch other apps from. Apps even next to a popular free app get more visibility&#x2F;discovery. Many companies launch a free app designed solely for users to help drive pay app usage.<p>Donation is probably the only option as advertising for those areas aren&#x27;t as high in payout. Don&#x27;t be sad by the letdown you will get from donation though, it is always way lower than expected. Ad supported apps also don&#x27;t really get that much money.<p>The only successful app strategy is to have quality apps and as many as you can support with quality levels.
ceejayoz将近 10 年前
Be mindful of what Facebook&#x27;s lawyers will think of you monetizing their logo and their website.
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angryasian将近 10 年前
I&#x27;m not accusing you of anything, but<p>Tinfoil is a great app thats similar. Also free and open source - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;play.google.com&#x2F;store&#x2F;apps&#x2F;details?id=com.danvelazco.fbwrapper" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;play.google.com&#x2F;store&#x2F;apps&#x2F;details?id=com.danvelazco...</a>
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rnovak将近 10 年前
I am&#x2F;was in the same situation as far as popularity goes with my desktop application (for OSX), and I personally went the route of not monetizing at all. To me, the knowledge gained through every feature I added and every bug I fixed is&#x2F;was more valuable than the money I could have made.<p>Then again, I have a great paying job that I love, and I primarily built it because I couldn&#x27;t find a similar application with the features I was looking for, so other people finding it useful is just a bonus. Plus, it&#x27;s a great way to show that I have passion for development outside of work, and that I&#x27;m continually trying to improve myself as a programmer&#x2F;engineer. I even provided detailed Arch&#x2F;Design&#x2F;Req docs in the github repos, just in case anyone was interested in looking.<p>Of the options listed in this thread, I like the idea of adding an &quot;in-app&quot; purchase for the feature you mention gets requested a lot (photo uploads I believe). The knowledge that will give you is immensely valuable (being able to turn features on&#x2F;off in the same application), if you don&#x27;t already have that built in.<p>Anyway, that&#x27;s just my opinion, but you should do whatever you think will make you happy.
jmbrook将近 10 年前
First of congratulations on the app, it is fulfilling a real need.<p>You have cracked the first problem of getting people to download + use +care about the app.<p>I like the idea of doing the survey however from my experience (we did a paid for Google Customer survey) our users want more content and for price of free which wasn’t hugely useful.<p>Personally I think you have three easy options:<p>1. Add some low level not too obtrusive adverts in (you will get a nice trickle of money in)<p>From my own experience of putting adverts into a util app (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;play.google.com&#x2F;store&#x2F;apps&#x2F;details?id=com.teazel&amp;hl=en" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;play.google.com&#x2F;store&#x2F;apps&#x2F;details?id=com.teazel&amp;hl=...</a>) no-one minds at all. The key is to not go overboard. We have banners that don&#x27;t refresh too often, disappear if they going to draw over a dice. The number of apps I see show full screen adverts at start up, every page transition etc - all very icky.<p>2. As others have said try and grow it and use it for Resume&#x2F;CV building. My one reservation on this is make sure you actually try and capitalise on it. I’m reminded of friends staying in awful jobs due to the training&#x2F;experience and years later never really harvesting the rewards.<p>3. Use it to cross promote another app (either by yourself or sell the space). Getting an app to be downloaded is so hard now having this to kick start the next project is a great de-risker.<p>I would go for option 1 or 3 depending on whether you have other apps in the pipeline.<p>As an aside is this lightweight wrapping of a webapp model work for other providers? LinkedIn etc?
Gustomaximus将近 10 年前
Nice app. Developing countries love their saving data (I used to work with an app in a similar vein). In your shoes Id likely move forward in 3 stages;<p>1) Bug Fix - if you can build momentum on growth your really onto something. Given the 80% inactive rate, have you looked at why people are uninstalling (I saw a bunch of no photo upload button on my quick look)? Improving scale if probably the best way to make money if you don&#x27;t really need the cash now.<p>2) Insert reasonably unobtrusive ads and see how they go. Given the countries involved you&#x27;ll be surprised that even with a large number of users you&#x27;re not hitting big money. Possibly try a few different ad placements to see the user experience vs. clicks vs. payments.<p>2) Once you have ads and know how many clicks you are getting, look for local opportunities for the bigger country(ies). Things like sponsorship of affiliate&#x2F;offer type deals. These should pay more but come with a real time cost.<p>3) Once you have a view how much a customer is worth, decide if you want to take the cash out or re-invest back into growing the app. Ideally if you can spend $X on recruitment and get back $X+Y you should chase growth. If not, enjoy riding the organic wave.<p>Regarding the poll, I&#x27;d not bother. What people say and do are often very different. I&#x27;d be more inclined to test ads and placement for real response. Monitor for feedback and possibly make a ad free version if people want.<p>I&#x27;ve heard donation buttons don&#x27;t really work.<p>Adding additional social support sounds good but at a price? Not sure there. These markets are super cost conscious so I&#x27;d personally look to focus on growth first and secondly monetising the user at no cost to them.<p>Good luck
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ggurgone将近 10 年前
Here&#x27;s how you could play it:<p>1) Play dirty: serve high resolution media (pic an videos) to the users - this results in more data downloaded = costs more money to your users. Here is where you ask them to pay a fair monthly subscription that would cost them less than $x-internet-provider-money (you can make tailor made plans depending on the stats)<p>2) Make it faster for who pays! At the very top of the page you could add a speed indicator (something like a thin progress bar) to indicate the speed of the page. Then make one of the views (the profile page for example) super fast to tease your users! and the ask for upgrade to premium to get all teH things fast :)<p>No matter how you play it I would &quot;re-brand&quot; it and remove any reference to the FB UI - which I guess is (c) Mark Boy
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makuchaku将近 10 年前
Script the build &amp; make such tiny apps for all popular permission hogging apps with websites. Then cross-promote them within your app.<p>This is what I would do :)
jcoffland将近 10 年前
Many apps or softwares are successful because the price is right. Often the right price is free. You need to consider if your user base even has money to give you. Your best bet is to use traffic from your current app as a way to sell another related service.
fpvracing将近 10 年前
Looks like a cool app and you&#x27;ve got some great reviews.<p>I would not add advertisements as you will risk damaging the good relationship you currently have with your users. Try adding a donation button and just see whether it brings in enough money. Adding support for other social networks also seems like a good idea, but a lot more work.<p>I&#x27;m actually in the process of developing my first Android app for our community at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fpvracing.tv" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fpvracing.tv</a>. Any tips &#x2F; tutorials you would recommend?
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eddiedunn将近 10 年前
Kickstarter campaigns often charge people extra money for getting access to Alpha and Beta builds. People are impatient, many want stuff sooner rather than later, so they pay for it.<p>You could offer a modified version of this; allow premium customers access to new features earlier, but roll out the updates to your free subscribers eventually as well. After a delay of 3 months perhaps?<p>It will gently encourage people to upgrade, but those who don&#x27;t want to pay won&#x27;t feel cheated as they will get the features eventually as well.
sdernley将近 10 年前
Congratulations on the success of the app!<p>When i&#x27;ve been in similar situations i&#x27;ve tried to look forward and not back. By that I mean, if it&#x27;s getting a lot of downloads then let the people who have already downloaded it have it, don&#x27;t change their experience by adding adverts in or damaging parts of the experience. Charge for new people to get the app. Saying that, I&#x27;ve never had it with as many people already downloaded the app, but i&#x27;d like to think i&#x27;d still do the same thing.<p>I have an app that I originally charged for and it got very little downloads, I made it free for a while and didn&#x27;t pay much attention to the downloads, went back to it at a later time and noticed it had a lot of downloads so I started charging for it just to see what would happen, I expected to make it free again within a week due to no downloads. Downloads obviously dropped a bit, but still kept a pretty consistent level and have done ever since. I make a point of always improving the app though, so maybe that helps too but I just think it comes down to timing and having those previous downloads could help, it seemed to help me.<p>I&#x27;m not sure if you can turn a free Android app into a paid one though, I don&#x27;t think you used to be able to, so that might all be pointless and you&#x27;d have to make a new id for it, but you&#x27;ve proved people definitely want it.<p>Whatever you do, good luck. I&#x27;m sure having a high downloaded app will help you at some point even if you don&#x27;t manage to do as much as you want with this one. I hope you do.
RossTech将近 10 年前
Instead of all the pop ups, or ads etc, how about just a simple message to users asking for a contribution. It&#x27;s a much more direct, and far less abrasive approach, plus it&#x27;s personal and seems reasonable. I&#x27;m betting it will convert at 5 - 10% of users aged 16+.<p>E.g. Hi, I hope you are enjoying this app and finding it useful. Could you support this app by paying a one-time fee of just $1? It will allow me to keep the app updated and best of all running ad-free! Thanks in advance.
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blazespin将近 10 年前
Rather than monetize, I think instead you should try to get more people to install it. Make it better. Add features to block ads or something. Clearly you&#x27;ve built something people want. Find a way to engage with your users and build more trust with them. Your next app will be quite popular with them, I&#x27;m sure.<p>You&#x27;re trying to monetize too early. Get real traction first. A million dollars isn&#x27;t cool. You know what&#x27;s cool? A billion dollars.
samet将近 10 年前
I developed and maintained a game for Android devices for 3 years and the game was for Turkish players only.<p>80 percent of my time was spent for optimizing the game for low-end devices; low-end devices lead the market because of those are the ones that majority of high school (or even primary school) students&#x27; parents could afford.<p>Not surprisingly, revenue coming from low-end devices segment was almost zero because young people using these devices are usually under 18 and were not allowed to have credit cards. Even relatively older ones (such as college students) didn&#x27;t spend any money because they were trying to survive as students with a limited budget.<p>Nexus One is a great smartphone with an acceptable large screen and you can still buy a working one from the second hand market. The weakest point of this cheap-heavy duty device is the limited memory, which is you focused on. (Actually it can be hacked to extend internal memory to micro SD card, but still hard for many people.)<p>Another example of low-end devices is Samsung Galaxy Ace. That is, my friend, a time and effort killer with almost no returns except always complaining free users.
lucaspiller将近 10 年前
I have an app in the Google Play store, it has around 1,500 active installs and I decided to do a bit of an experiment last year by releasing a paid pro version. It was exactly the same, it just had a different colour icon and &#x27;Pro&#x27; branding. I put the price at 99c&#x2F;99p, and put a link to it in the free edition description (the descriptions were the same other than that). I was pretty surprised when people actually bought it...<p>I think I made about $5 before I realised after a couple of weeks, and then I took it down. The app hadn&#x27;t been touched for a few years and wasn&#x27;t the best quality, so I didn&#x27;t feel happy for basically scamming people. I was considering doing the same for a donate version, but wanted to improve the app first - which I never got around to.<p>I think you could get some income by doing something similar, but it&#x27;s very unlikely to replace your main income.
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raverbashing将近 10 年前
Don&#x27;t monetize the app, but build from the success of it.<p>You have an App with 240k installs, that&#x27;s very good in a CV or when pitching your services.<p>This demographic is not going to pay you, sorry.<p>Now, developing apps that are light and work in older phones can be a marketable skill.
philbarr将近 10 年前
I wouldn&#x27;t bother with ads. One of my apps [1] has about 13,000 active users and I make ~£20 a month with it. Ads just don&#x27;t make you any money. Although this is just my experience, obviously, and there may be reasons why the ads in my app aren&#x27;t as successful as yours could be.<p>Still, I think it&#x27;s probably not worth annoying your users for the paltry amount of cash you&#x27;ll raise.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;play.google.com&#x2F;store&#x2F;apps&#x2F;details?id=com.simplyapped.sayit" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;play.google.com&#x2F;store&#x2F;apps&#x2F;details?id=com.simplyappe...</a>
kneonx将近 10 年前
You could add a 1 second splash count down whenever they open the app from multi tasking, and a simple payment can disable that. It&#x27;s not an ad. Just a countdown timer with an unlock feature. For a typical user, it wont be that big of a pinch, but for power users who cycle between apps and check back it could be worth monetizing.<p>Once again you&#x27;re not putting ads, you&#x27;re just exercising your right to monetize something you built ;)<p>OR if there are premium features you can push out that are not ad-removal related you might stand a chance at converting 1% of your users (freemium model)
garagemc2将近 10 年前
☻ I&#x27;m sure everyone else has gone through the pro&#x27;s and cons of different monetisation and product strategies.<p>☻ But having looked through the thread, I don&#x27;t believe anyone has asked you to think about Why the app is getting traction.<p>☻ You can come up with your own hypothesis or you can ask your users.<p>☻ Once you&#x27;ve understood why, you&#x27;ll be better placed to take the next step. Whether that involves monetisation, creating clones, developing the app, not developing the app - that is up to you.<p>☻Tl;dr Find out why users like your app and try to strategise based on that.
emilioolivares将近 10 年前
This kind of happened to me. I&#x27;ve tried building serious apps with limited success and traction. I&#x27;m a huge reddit&#x2F;imgur fan so a built a hobby site for myself using reddit&#x27;s api to browse through their images: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.flipmeme.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.flipmeme.com</a>. Currently gets 100k uniques per month, can&#x27;t monetize!!! In other words, the stuff you really work on doesn&#x27;t get anywhere, random stuff you build as a joke suddenly takes off?!
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pbreit将近 10 年前
How about the WhatsApp approach: first year free, then $0.99 per year?
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qwz将近 10 年前
Looks like the same kind of users as Opera Mini which has high number of users in Indonesia, India, Pakistan etc. They face similar problems as you do. Many users which don&#x27;t have much money.<p>Idea 1) Sell it to Opera Software Idea 2) Do like Opera and sign deals with mobile network operators to include operator content Idea 3) Sell Internet access through your app. Internet access is normally sold by hour in these countries. Sign deals with operators and similar. Idea 4) Advertising in app
pratyushag将近 10 年前
Given your motivations and comments, I would recommend that you have a whatsapp like subscription in place. One can get around paying for the subcription by inviting friends. For best results, make it easy enough to select all for the invite [you will soon realize that you&#x27;ll get most of your users from such people who don&#x27;t mind inviting a friend to an app they like a lot]. At some point in the next 1-2 years, you would likely get to 1 million downloads!
ghosh将近 10 年前
Looks like fb got the same idea now. <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;06&#x2F;04&#x2F;download-facebook-lite&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;06&#x2F;04&#x2F;download-facebook-lite&#x2F;</a> wrt monetization you can try adding a splash page, which the users can see they when login&#x2F;log out of the app. Can connect you to some Indian app &#x2F; game guys if you are interested.
fabiandesimone将近 10 年前
Why not put &#x27;App Recomendations&#x27; messages that drive installs for other apps?<p>There&#x27;s a ton of CPA networks that pay anywhere from .5 to $3 for an app install.
Raphmedia将近 10 年前
1. Do not touch the current app. As everybody said, you will simply lose people.<p>2. Create extra features for a PRO version. Perhaps simply a tab that let you switch between Twitter and Facebook? From what I understand, your app is pretty much a wrapper with a mobile site inside of it. Add tabs for other social websites. Pinterest, Twitter, etc. Something simple that people are going to be willing to pay a few extra coins for.
aniketpant将近 10 年前
I was looking around and I found <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;play.google.com&#x2F;store&#x2F;apps&#x2F;details?id=com.facebook.lite" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;play.google.com&#x2F;store&#x2F;apps&#x2F;details?id=com.facebook.l...</a> which comes from Facebook itself. Strangely it is incompatible with all my devices and I think this is due to a play store location based restriction (I am based in India).
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unicornporn将近 10 年前
If you do this I suspect most users will move to &quot;Tinfoil for Facebook&quot;. It does exactly what you describe and is popular and open-source.
andreasvourkos将近 10 年前
Rabidgremlin since you are planning to put a survey in place to understand what your users need, you can actually integrate Pollfish (<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pollfish.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pollfish.com</a>) which actually allows you both to survey your users for free easily, and also monetize in a different way than classic ads!
nait将近 10 年前
You could try adding a &quot;Social Lite Deals&quot; page where you put affiliate offers (e.g. stuff with reduced prices from Amazon).<p>This way you provide some kind of additional value and don&#x27;t risk offending your user base. Granted it won&#x27;t be as effective as ads but perhaps it&#x27;s a good starting point to figure out what your users like and accept.
crdoconnor将近 10 年前
Add an upgraded app that lets users redirect their traffic via servers you control. If they installed your app for privacy reasons, give them a reason to pay you for more privacy.<p>If Turkey is very popular that tells me that your users might want to conceal the fact (from their government) that they use facebook at all.
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whalesalad将近 10 年前
One of your recent reviews: &quot;Cool! (mainly because there&#x27;re no ads) To developers: keep ads out please -- willing to pay for it. Android ads are getting extremely intolerably utterly annoying and painful and stupid. Also, please keep network traffic minimal.&quot;
adam12将近 10 年前
Create a supporting website and put ads on that. Blog about updates and maybe even your experience creating the app. If you had that right now, you could be getting a lot of traffic from HN.<p>I&#x27;m afraid if you put ads in the app you will lose a lot of users and get negative feedback.
mastercoms将近 10 年前
When I think light, the last thing I think of is ads. Ads will make your app feel bloated to users.
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rajington将近 10 年前
Monetization just got a little tricker :( <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.engadget.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;06&#x2F;04&#x2F;facebook-lite-app" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.engadget.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;06&#x2F;04&#x2F;facebook-lite-app</a>
bond将近 10 年前
My opinion is not to listen people telling you not to put ads. Remember, your demographics is not first tier so that advice doesn&#x27;t apply... You&#x27;d be surprised what a banner or an interstitial can bring on those countries....
bthornbury将近 10 年前
I have very similar install numbers to your app on one of mine and I have had excellent monetization off a single banner ad across the bottom.<p>It reduces the usable screen area by only a little and is hardly intrusive to the experience.
tlogan将近 10 年前
55k active users is super! Since you are popular in 3rd world countries I would suggesting adding something your users can earn some extra money directly from phone. Maybe fiverr integration, odesk, amazon turk, etc.
z3t4将近 10 年前
You can take the opportunity to build your brand, or someone else&#x27;s. Gaining peoples thrust and building a reputation is hard, but very critical! Fifty thousands active users are worth about one million dollars.
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dutchbrit将近 10 年前
Don&#x27;t do ads, people will uninstall it in a jiffy. Create a second app, call it Social Lite Plus or something, and have some extra options - bit of a freemium version, but not sure if that&#x27;s a possibility?
ranrub将近 10 年前
Is this really just a webview that loads m.facebook.com?
abannin将近 10 年前
Congrats! This is really awesome. You&#x27;ve found some amount of product-market fit, and that is really really amazing. I think you should keep going, as this is when things start to get hard. You&#x27;ve cleared a few hurdles, and now you need to clear some very different obstacles.<p>From the countless hours that I&#x27;ve spent trying to figure out how to get users to give me money, I can confidently say that a surveying your users about monetization is the worst data you will ever see.<p>I can also say, with 200% confidence, that ads are not the right decision at this point. Here is why: 1) They aren&#x27;t your users. These are FB users, and if you start showing ads to them, FB will view this as stealing ad space from FB. Not a good spot to be in. 2) The geo distribution seems pretty clear that the light weight solution is a compelling feature. Ad SDKs are notoriously heavy on the binary, sometimes 20MB. Ads also use a large amount of data and are often slower than everything else. Most web pages could load in a fraction of time if they dropped the ads. So, putting in ads seems to kill the biggest feature of your app.<p>I don&#x27;t buy the argument that you can&#x27;t monetize that geo distribution. It&#x27;s true that those geos are overlooked by larger companies, but that also means less competition. Just know that you&#x27;re fighting for low ARPU users. Whatsapp used this strategy wonderfully. When their competitors were fighting over iPhone penetration in the US, they were building for feature phones in similar geos. They also kept the price point low, keeping in mind they had lower ARPU users.<p>I suspect that your best solution would be to find a compelling in-app-purchase (IAP). To do this, you&#x27;ll need to start knowing everything about your users. What features do they use? What features do they not use? When do they use the app? What do they want to accomplish with the app? Remember, Line started selling stickers when everyone could use emotiacons. Sometimes the winning business model is the thing that no one thought to try or everyone thought was too dumb. What is FB missing from the experience that you could add? I&#x27;ve always been impressed at how user&#x27;s actions can be the opposite of what they say. Your users will reveal their intent by what they do, so watch them very carefully.<p>I suspect a very telling analysis would be to start comparing users who hit the day-7 mark and leave vs those who hit the day-7 mark and stay. My guess is that you&#x27;ll start seeing some patterns about how retained users are interacting with the app, and then double down on that.<p>As a side note, your DAU to installs ratio seems to imply poor retention for a social app. This may be because the growth is targeting the wrong type of user. Regardless, this is a number that you&#x27;ll probably want to get to know very well. If you do have lower-then-average retention, find a way to turn it into a strength with other numbers that are really impressive, such as engagement.<p>This is really, really awesome and you should be proud of what you have accomplished. The next stage of growth will be harder to scale, but the bragging rights are a few orders of magnitude higher up there. Keep it up!
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antigirl将近 10 年前
Wouldnt the users get a better experience using the browser rather than using webview wrapped site?
maerF0x0将近 10 年前
Do the whatsapp thing. Free for 1 year. $1 afterwards. Its affordable even in all those countries.
zkhalique将近 10 年前
Yes, add google admob and facebook audience network ads, and a way to turn them off
mbesto将近 10 年前
Make a pro version with a few extra features and sell it for $2.99.
julienmarie将近 10 年前
FYI, Philippines is an English speaking country.
codecamper将近 10 年前
You spent an hour to write an app? ok.
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