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Edward Snowden: The World Says No to Surveillance

139 点作者 obeone将近 10 年前

11 条评论

adregan将近 10 年前
See the discussion on this article from yesterday:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=9663415" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=9663415</a>
mhurron将近 10 年前
&quot;Privately, there were moments when I worried that we might have put our privileged lives at risk for nothing — that the public would react with indifference, or practiced cynicism, to the revelations.&quot;<p>Except I don&#x27;t see anything other than that. I don&#x27;t see the world saying no to servailence. I see Europeans complaining about the NSA while turning a blind eye to their own governments doing the same thing, but that&#x27;s nothing new. I see Americans demanding the government do whatever they can do &#x27;stop terrorism.&#x27;<p>I only see people agreeing with Snowden and really being annoyed with the survailence because I frequent the small groups of people that do. Outside of that, I don&#x27;t see it.
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swombat将近 10 年前
I may be cynical, but I see the opposite. I really want to believe Snowden is right about this, but what I see is governments passing more obscure laws to create more legal loopholes, and in fact doubling down on the investment in &quot;security&quot; infrastructure.<p>I don&#x27;t see a trend of governments demanding accountability from their spies. Quite the opposite. The conservative government is about to try to pass yet another version of the Snooper&#x27;s Charter, and you know what, I think this time they may well succeed, since the tories have the majority and have only just won their seats. Even if they vote to betray the human race by passing the Snooper&#x27;s Charter, it will be forgotten by the time the next election comes round.<p>Looking around Europe, I don&#x27;t see a lot of visible concern about this. Occasional articles, etc, but most people don&#x27;t get why this is important.<p>The only positive trend at all is the increase in use of encryption that he notes. And to balance out that positive trend, what do we have? Governments of the world starting to make noises that &quot;encryption should be illegal&quot;.<p>Will Apple, Google, Facebook, etc, keep fighting for encryption if it&#x27;s made illegal? Dubious.<p>We&#x27;re losing this battle at the moment.
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rasur将近 10 年前
You&#x27;d think someone would have the wit to have Pardoned him by now, no?
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jacquesm将近 10 年前
I wished this were true. But I really don&#x27;t see it. Of the non-IT folk around me <i>nobody</i> seems to give a damn. And even of the IT folk there are quite a few in the &#x27;governments are great, shut up and let them do their job&#x27; or &#x27;if you&#x27;ve got nothing to hide&#x27; or &#x27;that Snowden jerk is a traitor and a supporter of the terrorists&#x27; groups. Which is a real pity, they of all people should know better.<p>What has changed post Snowdens revelations is that the governments are passing laws left, right and center to make their previous illegal behaviour legal and to reboot their programs under different names. And of course better security procedures to prevent the next Edward Snowden from either doing the deed <i>or</i> getting away with it without being caught whilst still within the borders.<p>It&#x27;s better than nothing, but the world is - alas - not saying no to Surveillance, if only.
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LordKano将近 10 年前
The world may be saying &quot;No&quot; but it&#x27;s saying it with a whisper.<p>For anything to change, the world will need to say it with a scream. If every politician that voted for snooping were to be recalled or lose their next election, that would change things.<p>Just saying &quot;the right thing&quot; to pollsters but voting the bums back in won&#x27;t change anything.
secfirstmd将近 10 年前
Bring him home!
Zenst将近 10 年前
The World also says No to Crime and that is the crux and fine balance.
tosseraccount将近 10 年前
&quot;World says no to surveillance&quot;<p>Headline is deceptive.<p>Loading the New York Times itself has plenty of third party cookies.<p>The world uses Google and has no idea what cookies and flash tracking is.<p>Most people I speak to say &quot;Who cares?&quot;
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miguelrochefort将近 10 年前
It&#x27;s unsettling to see how irational people become when faced with the question of privacy.<p>It is obvious that in the next 10 years, privacy will become frowned upon.<p>I personally see surveillance as progress, and am ready to embrace it. Feel free to ask me anything about that.
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ohmshalalala将近 10 年前
War...HUH...what is it good for? Absolutely nothin..say it again!