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XKEYSCORE: NSA’s Google for the World’s Private Communications

172 点作者 forlorn将近 10 年前

9 条评论

duncan_bayne将近 10 年前
One thing about all of this that really surprises me is the scale of it ... I was genuinely and unhappily surprised to discover just how large a covert programme can be kept entirely hidden from the general public &amp; most politicians.<p>I&#x27;d always naively assumed that working at this scale would guarantee leaks much, much earlier.
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MichaelGG将近 10 年前
I guess the good thing in all this is that it&#x27;s what you&#x27;d expect if you took Carnivore from the 90s and threw a ton of intelligent people and pervasive fibre access at it. There doesn&#x27;t seem to be anything breakthrough, like &quot;holy shit they can <i>do</i> that&quot; kind of stuff.<p>Now yes, the scope is amazing. And I was getting this technical excitement just reading the system. So many questions! Like, how do they distribute jobs fairly or deal with resource over use? What stops some dumbass oper from submitting a super-expensive query? How do they manage all this stuff? It&#x27;s pretty damn neat.<p>I&#x27;m wondering what the impact of TLS is on all this. Cause it seems like that&#x27;d sort of destroy this system, eh?<p>Edit: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.documentcloud.org&#x2F;documents&#x2F;2116191-unofficial-xks-user-guide.html#document&#x2F;p1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.documentcloud.org&#x2F;documents&#x2F;2116191-unofficial-x...</a> - Interesting how they are really explicit how USSID 18 stops them from doing stuff. Like they give the example of finding a phone number without a country code. Not allowed! Unless you combine it with something that&#x27;d limit it to foreign countries. But they note it&#x27;s not a 100% solution.
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capnrefsmmat将近 10 年前
I&#x27;m curious about their discussion of web forums. See the provided slides:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.documentcloud.org&#x2F;documents&#x2F;2116268-web-forum-exploitation-using-xks.html#document&#x2F;p2" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.documentcloud.org&#x2F;documents&#x2F;2116268-web-forum-ex...</a><p>It says they have &quot;full take for US web forum servers under FISA coverage&quot;, and &quot;passive collection for OCONUS [outside continental US] web forum server traffic&quot;. What does &quot;FISA coverage&quot; mean? They have warrants for specific forums, or a general warrant giving them access to thousands of forums?<p>I run a fairly large OCONUS message board. Are my visitors all in XKEYSCORE? I wish the release were more specific.
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codezero将近 10 年前
The app has a field for &quot;justification&quot; and in the examples, some of them are:<p>&gt; Chinese webmail users<p>&gt; Iranian webmail users<p>Oh.
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noondip将近 10 年前
Does anyone else notice (intentionally?) poor redaction? In one screenshot, two IP addresses are visible, then blacked-out in two other places on the same presentation slide - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;SLyjhmp" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;SLyjhmp</a>, for example.
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enlightenedfool将近 10 年前
Does using a VPN prevent any of these? EDIT: And I guess Google servers have most of Android users&#x27; home Wi-fi passwords. Which means NSA could pretty access any devices in those homes?
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hellbanner将近 10 年前
&quot;“The National Security Agency’s foreign intelligence operations are 1) authorized by law; 2) subject to multiple layers of stringent internal and external oversight; and 3) conducted in a manner that is designed to protect privacy and civil liberties. As provided for by Presidential Policy Directive 28 (PPD-28), all persons, regardless of their nationality, have legitimate privacy interests in the handling of their personal information. NSA goes to great lengths to narrowly tailor and focus its signals intelligence operations on the collection of communications that are most likely to contain foreign intelligence or counterintelligence information.”&quot;
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Sven7将近 10 年前
Now comes the hard part of wondering what to lookup. Shall we search for financial crimes? Nah...by the time we develop the expertise to write the query the crime has changed. Shall we find the next Boston Bomber? Nah...even more complicated. So what do we look for? The easy stuff...Godzilla for example. Someone has to keep watch.
programmernews3将近 10 年前
The advantage of NSA revelations is that it helps to educate people to form a justified contempt for secret services and governments.