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The Call to Kill Adobe’s Flash in Favor of HTML5 Is Rising

133 点作者 werencole将近 10 年前

21 条评论

cwyers将近 10 年前
Let&#x27;s say that we can get every major site to stop using Flash going forward, and that we can paper over it with HTML5 and polyfills. Great.<p>What do we do about the historic content that will never, ever be ported to anything other than Flash? Every thing on Kongregate? Newgrounds? Homestarrunner.com? Desktop Tower Defense? We&#x27;re talking about taking a decade&#x27;s worth of interactive web content and declaring it no longer relevant. Without a plan for preserving that material and continuing to make it accessible, I think that killing off Flash rather than deprecating it is a terrible idea.
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columbo将近 10 年前
I wish we would kill flash by providing a stronger solution. Does any <i>application</i> exist today that can replicate the functionality of even Flash MX (now 11 years old) in HTML5? An actual application that could be given to non-developers and not a series of javascript libraries.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.colorado.edu&#x2F;geography&#x2F;foote&#x2F;geog4043&#x2F;notes&#x2F;flashdemo&#x2F;simple%20animation&#x2F;directions%20simple%20animation.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.colorado.edu&#x2F;geography&#x2F;foote&#x2F;geog4043&#x2F;notes&#x2F;flash...</a><p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.colorado.edu&#x2F;geography&#x2F;foote&#x2F;geog4043&#x2F;notes&#x2F;flashdemo&#x2F;growth%20of%20a%20nation&#x2F;frame_by_frame%20directions.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.colorado.edu&#x2F;geography&#x2F;foote&#x2F;geog4043&#x2F;notes&#x2F;flash...</a>
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velcro将近 10 年前
A colleague of mine was a very vocal anti-Flash proponent - he used to say that he&#x27;s tired of his laptop overheating from those 5 stupid animated Flash banners (on his favourite news site).<p>The irony of it is - I&#x27;m not sure 5 animated WebGL banners would keep his laptop any cooler...
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userbinator将近 10 年前
IMHO Flash was pretty good when it was still Macromedia Flash; after Adobe bought it, things started going downhill.<p>I think the file format itself is quite nice (it&#x27;s much more compact than SVG, for example) - the real problem is with the interpreter&#x27;s implementation...
super_mario将近 10 年前
Unfortunately, Flash still plays Youtube videos more efficiently than HTML5. On weak hardware this can make a difference between smooth playback or choppy video or watching videos in much lower resolution that you normally would with Flash.
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EarthLaunch将近 10 年前
The &quot;kill flash&quot; screeching has been at full volume in ignorant tech communities for at least five years already.
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inthewoods将近 10 年前
Yeah Microsoft has at least put a bullet in Silverlight (admittedly it was use a LOT less).
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sosuke将近 10 年前
Ask Google Music developers why they still require Flash for the best experience? You can call for its death but the call is hollow without a replacement.<p>Isn&#x27;t there also a possibility for the browsers to sandbox the plugins enough to keep them safe?
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programminggeek将近 10 年前
One area where Flash was incredible - Adobe Air for desktop apps.<p>Seriously, there was no better&#x2F;easier way to visit a site, download an app, and have it push out updates. It was beautiful.<p>No other cross platform solution comes close to AIR in that regard.
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dangerboysteve将近 10 年前
I uninstalled flash a long time ago and no issues. Don&#x27;t miss it.
DannoHung将近 10 年前
You know what&#x27;s actually kinda interesting? There&#x27;s going to have to be an independent flash file player in order to view a <i>lot</i> of content that was produced when Flash was king. Like, I mean a lot of games and videos are going to be strictly inaccessible without downloading a tailored piece of software to specifically view them. Think about all the other common file formats that your computer will just open for you now. All those flash files are going to be basically in the dustbin.
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Thiz将近 10 年前
I killed it five years ago and haven&#x27;t missed it a bit.
erikb将近 10 年前
Why does Facebook call for a Flash kill? It&#x27;s nearly the only site in my always open tabs that is still using Flash.
zhte415将近 10 年前
IE (even 11) still has bad support for robust rendering of HTML5. Until that changes, not a lot will happen.
mildweed将近 10 年前
Ad networks are going to have to finally get their act together.
spotj将近 10 年前
Wait, is it 2011 again?
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amelius将近 10 年前
Can we please also kill Android and iOS in favor of HTML5?
werencole将近 10 年前
Really, isn&#x27;t it time for Adobe to admit that Flash is a relic?
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edko将近 10 年前
WebAssembly will have all the good parts of the Flash VM, with the important advantage of being an open standard, right from the beginning, with multiple competing implementations. It will really be the final nail in the coffin for Flash.
kungfooman将近 10 年前
HTML5 is plain slow.
zwetan将近 10 年前
it&#x27;s been 5 years or so that I constantly hear ppl saying &quot;flash is dead&quot;, OK maybe, maybe not.<p>Apparently it&#x27;s not dead enough, HTML5 didn&#x27;t grow enough in those last 5 years to kill it, so what ppl are asking now ? &quot;oh please Adobe kill it yourself&quot;<p>and why ?<p>oh because this remote code execution flaw is unacceptable, humm OK, so following this logic we should kill any technology that get the same flaw right ?<p>How about killing Firefox ? Chrome ? Windows ? etc.<p>I mean that&#x27;s what we are talking about here right, preserve ppl from security flaw by killing bad technology that constantly have flaw, well ... why stop at Flash only ?<p>ouh it took Adobe 48h to fix a security flaw, if your platform take more than 48h to fix the same kind of security risk it should be killed too, and there we look into the details and oh surprise, how long does it take Mozilla to fix a remote code execution ?<p>at least few weeks, well that&#x27;s it we should all ask Mozilla to kill Firefox too.<p>Let&#x27;s review the others now, Google with Chrome, Microsoft with Windows, etc. I mean really we have the great opportunity here to ask every single big software vendors who ever had some security flaw in their software to just kill them because duh it&#x27;s just keep happening and it is unacceptable.<p>No, no worries, don&#x27;t even bother to fix them, just kill them.<p>Because everyone knows that only good secure software never have bugs or security flaws right, so let&#x27;s do this logic thing let&#x27;s kill all software that have flaws and only keep using those with no flaws.<p>Hahaha it is ridiculous, every single software out there have bugs, flaws, etc. and among all that yeah sure you have big security exploits waiting to be discovered, but the important thing to understand is that it does concern everyone.<p>If you say or think it is only Adobe with Flash you are lying to yourself big time.<p>But fair is fair, if you want to lash out on Flash, yeah be my guest but then do the same for every other tech out there because they are all guilty of the same problems.<p>Software can not be bug free, it&#x27;s like that, accept it and live with it.<p>You will always have a bunch of people trying to find those bugs and exploit them, and as well you always have another bunch of people trying to fix those bugs.<p>But if your logic is just about &quot;oh this piece of crap of software is ridden with bugs we should just kill it&quot;, then be ready to kill the next one, and the next one, and the next one, till there is no software anymore out there.<p>go here <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cvedetails.com&#x2F;top-50-vendors.php" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cvedetails.com&#x2F;top-50-vendors.php</a> and starts to ask all those companies to kill their products