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Stephen Hawking and Yuri Milner Announce $100M Initiative to Seek ET

288 点作者 saticmotion将近 10 年前

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agentgt将近 10 年前
One of my favorite topics is the Fermi Paradox and consequently the Great Filter (which someone already discussed).<p>One of my favorite explanations is that there are other ET out there but they are two engrossed with their own entertainment to &quot;give a fuck&quot; (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Fermi_paradox#They_tend_to_isolate_themselves" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Fermi_paradox#They_tend_to_iso...</a>). I find it amusing and ironic while also seriously consider it a possibility.<p>From wikipedia:<p>It may also be that intelligent alien life develop an &quot;increasing disinterest&quot; in their outside world.[71] Possibly any sufficiently advanced society will develop highly engaging media and entertainment well before the capacity for advanced space travel, and that the rate of appeal of these social contrivances is destined, because of their inherent reduced complexity, to overtake any desire for complex, expensive endeavors such as space exploration and communication. Once any sufficiently advanced civilization becomes able to master its environment, and most of its physical needs are met through technology, various &quot;social and entertainment technologies&quot;, including virtual reality, are postulated to become the primary drivers and motivations of that civilization.[72]<p>aka Star Trek holodeck.... the best drug in the future.
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nogridbag将近 10 年前
Please excuse my complete ignorance - this is something that continues to perplex me no matter how many times I hear it explained and I may sound like a complete idiot here. Can someone explain how this would work in layman&#x27;s terms?<p>Let&#x27;s say that life on another planet 150 million billion miles away wanted to send us a message. So that&#x27;s 25,000 light years away. They send us one single 1 minute duration message at t=0 and that message travels at the speed of light as an example. And let&#x27;s just say t=25000 happens to be today. Does that mean that we have a one minute window to intercept part of the message otherwise it&#x27;s lost?<p>If so, let&#x27;s say the life on that planet was persistent and continued to send messages continuously directly to us and no other planets for 500 years. Then I would assume we have a 500 year period to play with. If they started sending signals let&#x27;s say 10,000 years ago, it seems we have absolutely no chance to receive the message unless this program is operational for the next 15,000 years or so. But our odds of receiving an intelligent signal is vastly higher simply due to the number of planets in our galaxy. Is my understanding remotely correct?
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melling将近 10 年前
I wish someone would instead come up with a project to really capture the public&#x27;s attention about space exploration. More interest means more funding. The U.S. Budget is measured in billions. The New Horizons project, for example, only cost $700 million.<p>The Lunar X Prize might have been that project but it doesn&#x27;t seem to be making progress:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Google_Lunar_X_Prize" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Google_Lunar_X_Prize</a><p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;lunar.xprize.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;lunar.xprize.org&#x2F;</a>
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jahnu将近 10 年前
Hawking wants to find them, but seemingly not reveal ourselves...<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;commentisfree&#x2F;2010&#x2F;apr&#x2F;26&#x2F;stephen-hawking-issues-warning-on-aliens" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;commentisfree&#x2F;2010&#x2F;apr&#x2F;26&#x2F;stephen...</a>
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codeshaman将近 10 年前
A very noble endeavour indeed, but I still don&#x27;t get it.<p>So let&#x27;s say that by examining the petabytes of data that&#x27;s received from the telescopes, at some point a signal is detected.<p>Let&#x27;s say that somehow all the competing scientests and skeptics, religious and opinion leaders magically and peacefully agree: the signal is from an inteligent life form. Somewhere close, just a couple of hundred light years away ...<p>Then what ?<p>Do we build rockets to travel there ? Do we &#x27;tune-in&#x27; and decipher the signal ? Do we send them our own signals in the hope that they are listening ?
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codeshaman将近 10 年前
If we really believe in scientific progress, then we must accept that, compared to some time in the future, our current understanding of the Universe is akin to people thinking the world was flat some time in the past.<p>Maybe the Universe&#x27;s scale compared to our physical form has a purpose. Maybe it&#x27;s intended to <i>not</i> be traversed physcally. Maybe that&#x27;s the most obvious conclusion an intelligent life form might draw from analyzing it&#x27;s scale ?<p>Maybe in the future we will understand it just like the aliens we&#x27;re looking for did a long time ago - that the way to communicate in this Universe does not involve physical travel or physical signals.<p>Just look up some pictures of Pablo Amaringo - a shaman making drawings of his trips on ayahuasca. Notice the &#x27;aliens&#x27; and the galaxies and the the distant worlds that he is visiting while tripping.<p>Anyone who has been on powerful psychedelic trips would agree that there is a lot of stuff to explain there, besides just the brain reaction to a chemical. Stuff like traveling through time, out of the Universe, into the microcosmos, before and after life, etc.<p>People did this for thousands of years - they used terms such as &#x27;spirits&#x27;, &#x27;beings&#x27; and &#x27;gods&#x27; to describe who they made contact with.<p>But what if those substances are more than just intoxicants, what if they really trigger some unknown mind-space-time gateway which we haven&#x27;t yet tapped scientifically, which makes space and time travel possible. What if we could approach this scientifically and actually make these trips predictable and repeatable ?<p>What if the aliens are actually just high tech savages using advanced psychedelic drugs + mind machines to travel and explore time and space, while sitting in a forest around a fire ?<p>We should start exploring the inner space just like we are exploring the outer space. When will we see $100m invested in that ? :)
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dogma1138将近 10 年前
Didn&#x27;t Hawking said that actively looking for ET was reckless and dangerous and that any contact with a more advanced civilization will end up like the colonization of America with us being the natives?
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rdl将近 10 年前
Wow. Thank you, Yuri!<p>I suspect even if this is unsuccessful at finding ET, it will do lots of awesome other things.<p>And if it is successful in finding ET, then it&#x27;s probably the most significant possible discovery.
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Tepix将近 10 年前
Amazing initiative! I wish we had more of these. And it&#x27;s coming right after &quot;Armada&quot; by Ernest Cline was released, which deals with aliens.<p>If the livestream is overlaid with page elements for you as well, try this URL:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;livestream.com&#x2F;accounts&#x2F;6714632&#x2F;events&#x2F;4205486&#x2F;player?width=960&amp;height=540&amp;autoPlay=true&amp;mute=false" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;livestream.com&#x2F;accounts&#x2F;6714632&#x2F;events&#x2F;4205486&#x2F;player...</a>
z3t4将近 10 年前
If we ever receive radio from another world, they&#x27;re probably already extinct.
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webwielder2将近 10 年前
Wow, a colossal waste of money. Space is far, far too vast and the time scale of human civilization far, far too small. To think of what other good uses that time and money could be spent on (that goes for SETI too)
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rokhayakebe将近 10 年前
For now I am more interested in terrestrial life which cannot be perceived with our senses alone. Are there others roaming around next to me, but we cannot perceive one another with some additional tool?
rdl将近 10 年前
Interesting that SIGINT tools (zero sum at best, and probably negative sum) are basically going to be useful for something which extends the ears of humanity in a positive way.
brock_r将近 10 年前
Can a satellite &quot;orbit&quot; so that it imitates a star?<p>Or would it have to &quot;stand still&quot; out there, which would make it fall back to earth?
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thebouv将近 10 年前
Funny enough, I wonder what the numbers would hit if they crowdfunded something like this? I think the number would be surprisingly high.
hgfischer将近 10 年前
I think Giorgio A. Tsoukalos would be the best choice instead of Stephen Hawking, who is against finding ETs.
ohitsdom将近 10 年前
Seems like a huge waste of money to me. If you&#x27;re interested in ET, why not invest in the space industry to advance our capabilities? It&#x27;ll be hard to interact with ET when as a society we are essentially[0] earth bound.<p>[0] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;howmanypeopleareinspacerightnow.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;howmanypeopleareinspacerightnow.com&#x2F;</a>
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k8tte将近 10 年前
one week Hawking warns about skynet-style AI. next week he insist of us go hunting it. good troll?
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queryly将近 10 年前
I don&#x27;t think there is ET. The probability that atoms fuse together to construct a organism that is capable of turning sun into bio-energy and multiplying itself just by chance is too small to have two civilizations in this universe.
pinkskip将近 10 年前
seems legit :D
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