Windows 10 is unfinished

Whatever. 7 people in my office just upgraded from 7/8.1 in under a hour with all their documents, programs and settings unchanged and then continued working like normal. That's unreal considering how many different hardware combinations exist. People seem to like it and its only going to get better.

As long as the functionality is there and basic improvements have been made, I&#x27;m not at all upset. I got my upgrade for free, and I&#x27;m enjoying several of the new features (especially multiple desktops, welcome to the 21st century Microsoft).<p>We&#x27;ve all released minimum viable products before. Hell, &quot;early access&quot; is dominating video games in particular. As long as they continue to improve and have a stable, steady release schedule with tangible results, then I think it was a good move on Microsoft&#x27;s part. Especially since the longer they waited the more entrenched users of Windows 7 &amp; 8 would become, just like they did with XP.

I guess it is the trend in software now. &#x27;Move fast and break things&#x27;. Started with games, now with Operating Systems.<p>I agree, there was a lot of duality in Windows 8 with Metro and classical Windows menus&#x2F;programs, and they still seem to exist with 10. I even have &quot;Backup and Restore (Windows 7)&quot; option in control panel and yet I upgraded from a clean install of Windows 8.1.

I don&#x27;t really agree with the author. I find Windows 10 to be a step up from 8.1. Also, a fair comparison might be to verion 8 when it first came out, right?<p>I think Microsoft and Apple are on a good path: keeping the same major version number for their OS, and just continually bring out little changes.

Nothing is ever really finished. Apple&#x27;s been working on their version 10 for 14 years.

I think this guy brings up a lot of good points about windows 10, but isn&#x27;t that the point of this OS, to be incrementally updated based on all the user data they are pulling from us?<p>They could use more polish, but I they got rid of one thing that bugged the hell out of me from windows 8. Apps. Every time I slid my mouse to the right I inevitably was on the edge and opened the last app. Infuriating. I had to disable that feature every time.<p>Windowed apps are an improvement, and I really hope they listen to their customers and improve the OS.

Cached: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;webcache.googleusercontent.com&#x2F;search?q=cache:9bJY6S96820J:gbl08ma.com&#x2F;windows-10-is-unfinished&#x2F;+&amp;cd=1&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=us" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;webcache.googleusercontent.com&#x2F;search?q=cache:9bJY6S9...</a>

Still on the last stable preview release (1 month old) and tons of issues with crashes&#x2F;freezes, weird UI funkiness and game compatibility. Hoping the final version fixed many of these issues but it&#x27;s sounding unlikely.<p>My initial impressions remain the same. Compared to 7; lots of invasive privacy policies, much slower (especially bootup), takes WAY more space on my sad little SSD, adds little to no value (I had multiple desktops already using a reliable plugin). Wish I didn&#x27;t upgrade...

Also see <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;textslashplain.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;07&#x2F;31&#x2F;on-defaults&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;textslashplain.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;07&#x2F;31&#x2F;on-defaults&#x2F;</a> and a Twitter thread on the problems with the OOBE UI: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;yuhong2&#x2F;status&#x2F;627145718331904000" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;yuhong2&#x2F;status&#x2F;627145718331904000</a>

Almost all of the author&#x27;s complaints revolve around the Control Panel. Most users won&#x27;t ever see the Control Panel, just the Settings app.<p>The Control Panel is a legacy piece they decided to keep around for the &quot;enterprise&quot;; just like Windows 10 also still includes the old Internet Explorer.

Flashback to 2001: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.actsofvolition.com&#x2F;archive&#x2F;2001&#x2F;december&#x2F;windowsxprough" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.actsofvolition.com&#x2F;archive&#x2F;2001&#x2F;december&#x2F;windowsx...</a><p>(Two years later, Steven analyzed the visual identity of Mozilla: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.actsofvolition.com&#x2F;files&#x2F;mozillabranding&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.actsofvolition.com&#x2F;files&#x2F;mozillabranding&#x2F;</a> That article, as far as I can remember, resulted in a fruitful collaboration between Steven (Silverorange) and Mozilla.)

Having used Windows 10, yes, Control Panel is still there and full of junk, but you need it <i>much</i> less in Windows 10 than Windows 8 since Settings is now so much larger.<p>The only time I&#x27;ve needed control panel so far was for mouse acceleration. That should be in settings, but they&#x27;ve done so much work I expect they&#x27;ll sort it soon.

I find that the Windows Explorer is super cluttered. I need to find a good replacement.

&gt; but the RAM usage has gone up when compared to 8.1. On a device with just 2 GB of RAM, this matters, but not nearly as much as what’s coming next…<p>In that entire article, increased RAM usage was the only thing that piqued my interest. The rest of the issues were styling inconsistencies and changes to how some settings are accessed, both of which are problems Windows has had since Vista.<p>At the same time, though, it&#x27;s impressive that a modern operating system can operate on just 2GB of RAM. The last time I had that little RAM, I was running Windows 98.

I&#x27;m not surprised by the UI dissonance.<p>I was in the insider preview, and they changed the UI style they were going for a few times. I suspect its just a matter of scale: they eventually settled on a given style, but didn&#x27;t have a chance to upgrade the six million dialogs in the system in time.<p>Importantly, its not just look but the app technology that needs to shift. The new stuff is in the Universal App framework, some other stuff in WPF, and the ancient stuff in forms. I imagine as the updates come in, one after another dialog will be updated.

For people with attention to detail and notice when icons are not updated and other design inconsistencies they are probably far better suited for OS X. Typical windows users don&#x27;t notice those things so imagine Microsoft didn&#x27;t focus on them in this version. May take until 11 or 12 to get all those things refined. (And yes mac has had similar issues but far less in release versions).

&quot;History&quot; is still not available in Spartan: &quot;You&#x27;ll see your browsing history here in the not-too-distant future&quot;. Is History that hard to implement?<p>Spartan does not respond properly to ShellExecute(). My app launches a PDF and... Spartan just sits there, without displaying the PDF. Yes, you can open it manually with the PDF Reader, but my users expect it to launch automatically.

I would think by now everybody knew that you had to wait at least one year before adopting a new Microsoft OS. OK, with the &quot;new Microsoft&quot;* you can probably shorten the delay to 6 months, but any shorter than that you&#x27;re an early adopter and shouldn&#x27;t complain.<p>* anybody that used their softwares for 2 decades can see how much they improved

Why does everyone complain about error reporting?<p>A former coworker of mine worked with one of the areas in Microsoft that dealt with error reporting. They actually analyze the data and provide feedback to the vendors of crash-happy programs. It&#x27;s an important thing that helps generally improve quality of life.

My apologies for being glib, but I intend to skip Windows 10.<p>Microsoft traditionally releases a revised edition within a year or so, and so I intend to wait for this revision before upgrading.<p>Will it be named Windows 10.1? Will it be named Windows 11, or even Windows 12? I am unsure about the name, but I will hold out for this OS.

tl; dr: some icons are old and whole control panel is not adapted to modern UI.<p>that is the reason twitter exists people.

You know the personal computing world has run out of technical ideas when we spend massive amount of time fretting over &quot;ui design language&quot;...

So this is a surprise for you? Which Microsoft software was finished at its release date?

Release it as-is, then release patches and day-one DLC.

Wow. Windows 10 is too hard for Microsoft. What a mess. Right, I&#x27;ll say with Windows XP or Windows 7.<p>Time for Windows 11.<p>What a disaster.<p>And for what I&#x27;m really interested in, security, and compatibility, if they can&#x27;t get some simple GUI dialogs correct, there&#x27;s no hope for the rest. Looks like Windows 7 is the most recent usable Microsoft OS.

Microsoft historically released a good OS version at about every 2 major versions... could Windows 10 be the start of a good version at every 3 major release?