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Former Apple rival IBM could become the biggest buyer of MacBooks

107 点作者 satyajeet23将近 10 年前

17 条评论

colindean将近 10 年前
IBM is wise to do so. The Thinkpad W540 that developers hired in summer 2014-summer 2015 got is terrible for Linux: graphics driver problems, the trackpad is a horrible piece of junk that wholly depresses 1mm into the body and has a texture that wears off after several <i>weeks</i> (most folks who have them, and there&#x27;s a lot of them, carry mice instead), and they weigh a ton. A coworker just got a Thinkpad W541 and it improves on the trackpad by readding the missing thumb buttons under the spacebar.<p>The W530 and W520 weren&#x27;t much better: they didn&#x27;t have the terrible trackpads. IIRC the W520&#x27;s graphics stack worked better, but that was three years ago. I helped an intern set up a W520 and it still had some issues before we got it stable. I wouldn&#x27;t call myself a super expert Linux admin, but I do remember a day when I had to manually configure XFree86.<p>I came into IBM through acq. I&#x27;m a Mac guy these days, and was before the acq, where I&#x27;d used a HP machine with Linux when I first joined the company because there were no Macs to spare. When my pre-acq Mac couldn&#x27;t run the Linux binaries I needed for work, I switched to a T420 and disliked it. I used R4x series in college and LOVED them.<p>I&#x27;m seeing more and more Macs around my office. We were probably 60% Thinkpads with Linux, 30% Mac, 10% Thinkpads with Windows going into 2015. I had been seeing Mac growth for a while, but it was all BYOD. Now that the deal went through, most folks up for a machine refresh are choosing Macs, mostly because that&#x27;s what they own themselves. Some of the few die-hard Windows folks are even getting Macs and dual booting Windows.<p>Like others, I can&#x27;t really comment on the purchase quantity, mostly because I&#x27;m not privvy to that information!
nfriedly将近 10 年前
Speaking as an IBMer, I can say that a big part of this switch is about the hardware. My ThinkPad was so unbalanced it was almost ridiculous: i7, 32gb RAM, paired with a slooooow mechanical hdd and an utterly rubbish TN display. (That and a frusturatingly bad touchpad). I prefer OS X over Windows, but only slightly, the main reason I was so adamant about switching was to get quality hardware.
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noondip将近 10 年前
How are they planning to manage so many computers, given that Apple provides no practical enterprise management software for OS X?<p>Oh, <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;jobs.utah.gov&#x2F;jsp&#x2F;wi&#x2F;utalmis&#x2F;oijoborder.do;jsessionid=68FB0CE0EB4B0AE13841726F31E6EE41?ordernum=9650243" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;jobs.utah.gov&#x2F;jsp&#x2F;wi&#x2F;utalmis&#x2F;oijoborder.do;jsessionid...</a><p><pre><code> * CanHazImage * Pupet * Crankd * PlanB * Munki Required * </code></pre> In other words, follow how Google manages their corp Mac fleet of &quot;tens of thousands&quot;,<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;google&#x2F;macops" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;google&#x2F;macops</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.usenix.org&#x2F;conference&#x2F;lisa13&#x2F;managing-macs-google-scale" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.usenix.org&#x2F;conference&#x2F;lisa13&#x2F;managing-macs-googl...</a>
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ksec将近 10 年前
Personally I think this is big, and now even bigger then I thought.<p>The largest Enterprise they had was only 25,000 Macbook a year. And IBM is 10 times the size of that order.<p>Most of the Enterprise I know, big or small are still very much Window based. The way Mac are getting in right now are through BYOD. However, most CIO see this as additional burden with Apple devices, and therefore most planning are still based on the Windows world.<p>CRM, ERP etc.. lots of business class things still are not available on Mac. Although there are alternatives, no business wants to try.<p>Hopefully IBM and Apple could use this chance to smooth out the quirks rolling Apple devices in Enterprise. And more company to follow.<p>Dont get me wrong, this isn&#x27;t about getting rid of Windows. I am sure there are lots of people who enjoy Window 10. But when our company tries to switch over to Mac, we have had very little support and real world cases to based on.<p>P.S - Most of you working in the I.T &#x2F; Computer Industry would have no problem doing so, but there are lots of industry out there who cant risk to switch even if they wanted to.
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brudgers将近 10 年前
<i>&quot;We&#x27;ve got to find a way to make the overall cost the same or lower than PCs to make that happen.&quot;</i><p>That&#x27;s a tall order given IBM &#x27;s existing software infrastructure, Apple&#x27;s migration tooling and support staff for enterprise, and the constraints that accounting standards place on the way equal cost would have to be figured.<p>Calculating the charge against goodwill associated with getting 200,000 people to give up their ThinkPad keyboards is left as an exercise for the reader.
bane将近 10 年前
I work for a small enterprise (under 2,000 people) and we get a choice of a couple different Macs (Air, Book, Pro), Dells in various configurations as well as Surface tablets.<p>The tech folks usually get a Mac Pro or a high-spec&#x27;d Dell (it has better specs than any Mac Laptop that&#x27;s available at the moment, but is about the size and weight of a TV tray). The business guys and PMs go for the Airs and Surfaces...I&#x27;d say the Surfaces are about 2:1 to the Airs on takeup, and that&#x27;s mostly because of the form factor and pen.<p>There&#x27;s been a couple rough spots, but our leadership simply decided it was time to figure it out, and if we did, we&#x27;d be years ahead of larger enterprises, thus giving us a competitive advantage.
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dfc将近 10 年前
Actual Title:(emphasis mine): &quot;Former Apple rival IBM <i>could</i> become the biggest buyer of MacBooks&quot;<p>Submission Guidelines Refresher:<p>In Submissions<p>Please don&#x27;t do things to make titles stand out, like using uppercase or exclamation points, or adding a parenthetical remark saying how great an article is. It&#x27;s implicit in submitting something that you think it&#x27;s important....Otherwise please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait.
davelnewton将近 10 年前
It wouldn&#x27;t take very long to re-equip all their employees.<p>Some of the Lenovos are pretty robust, too; I don&#x27;t know much about the low-end models, but some of the upper-ends are quite nice. If they had first-class Linux support I&#x27;d even consider getting one.
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arcosdev将近 10 年前
Just in time to enjoy the now quickly deteriorating quality of Apple&#x27;s latest MacBooks!
r00fus将近 10 年前
Part and parcel of the new Apple&#x2F;IBM cooperation deal. I wonder if IBM is pushing iOS as well for their employees?
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shellbye将近 10 年前
&quot;A country does not have permanent friends, only permanent interests.&quot; Same to companies.
jbfr将近 10 年前
I work in the IBM Design Studio and all the employees have MacBook Pros. It&#x27;s been working out pretty well actually, even with respect to integrating with some of IBM&#x27;s legacy software that we have to deal with.
matt4711将近 10 年前
Most IBM employees in Australia use Toshiba laptops instead of Lenevo.
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jebblue将近 10 年前
IBM used to have tens of thousands of employees and not just technical people, running Linux on the desktop&#x2F;laptop.
pinaceae将近 10 年前
well, the new ms office for osx is really good, so if all you need is web apps for business tools (erp, crm, etc) plus productivity apps a mac is the machine to go with right now.<p>mb, mb air, the small mbp are all excellent office machines.<p>switched personnally to a mba in 2012, wouldn&#x27;t go back to a wintel notebook if they paid me.
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pavement将近 10 年前
...because Windows is intolerably awful now, presumably getting worse every day.<p>Seriously. It&#x27;s been downhill since Vista. Every upgrade since XP has been disruptive, and destroyed time-saving behaviors.
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Mithaldu将近 10 年前
I really wonder why people keep submitting highly editorialized headlines when the guides clearly state not to do it.<p>On the article:<p>If this pans out it could spell the end of Thinkpads as high quality laptops that deliver premium performance while being very robust and sturdy. Who is left in that niche? Are we left with only either apple laptops, or shoddy plastic jobs that need to be kept in bubble wrap at all times?
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